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Clones and Programmable Life Forms
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Clones and Programmable Life Forms β Cosmic Disclosure. By SBA.
David Wilcock
All right. Welcome back to βCosmic Disclosureβ.
Iβm your host, David Wilcock, and Iβm here with Emery Smith. Emery, welcome back to the show.
Emery Smith
Thanks for having me, Dave. Great to be here.
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Emery Smith
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David
When you first encountered a partial body, by that point, you said you had seen some arms and hands. Had you seen other limbs besides arms or hands?
Emery
No. Yes, Yes, I saw pieces of like, a face, pieces⦠of skin, maybe small fingers.
It looked like some sort of appendages, some like, phalanges, maybe toes, feet, parts of, like, legs, very small parts though, cross-section parts, that were cut in a way that you would have to have a very special instrument to, you know, transect these particles of these tissues.
The tissue particles I got were always cut in very specific ways. So when we got these tissues, weβd just, you know, of course, start right into, you know, we always had a job what we were going to do with this piece of tissue.
And then later came full bodies and torsos, maybe with or without a head, or a full arm, or other things, even genitalia β all sorts of different things. Yeah.
David
Now, did you have any particularly different surgical equipment? Like did you use a normal scalpel, or was there something unusual about that?
Emery
Yeah, there was normal surgical equipment that weβd normally use, but there was also other devices they had that were more advanced than the stuff that we had at that time.
There were more high-powered lasers and electrocautery devices that weβd normally use in surgery, but on a different level, using different types, I think, of frequencies.
There was one, also, it was like a sonic knife. And later on, that knife did come out to the civilian usage. But I was not familiar with that in modern civilian usage.
And when I say βcivilianβ, also I mean βmilitaryβ β just normal military hospitals were not using harmonic scalpels at that point.
And my first use of a harmonic scalpel was actually in that program.
David
All right. I want to ask you a question that we might think is dumb, but some people will take very seriously.
Emery
Sure.
David
Youβre handling exobiology.
Emery
Right.
David
And thereβs a lot of people out there that think that there are shapeshifting biological beings that can instantly morph from one form to another.
Some people have said that they think the worldβs elite are shapeshifting Reptilians.
Emery
Thatβs right.
David
Did you encounter any shapeshifting biological matter?
Emery
I think I did. These transdimensional beings, when they get to that level, they are actually a level of consciousness thatβs beyond . . . like billions of years from now.
They get to that light body form, and you can be whatever you want and go to any dimension to help out and do whatever.
But I believe that one of them died here in a 3D shape that . . . how we found him was kind of like a translucent blob, like a jellyfish, but longer. And I think, since it had light with it, I think it might have been one of these very higher-dimensional beings that was, maybe, in the mode of shifting.
Or maybe they had some way of capturing this type of energetic form. Like, you know, somehow encapsulating it, and then bringing it in.
It did give off light, but it didnβt give off any type of frequency that we could pick up.

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David
So it was approximately like an oval, like a human-type of shape, but just in a very general sense?
Emery
Yeah, it kind of looked like a cookie cutter β like you make those cookie-cutter doughboys at Christmas β but very bulbous, and round, and very liquidy.
David
How tall was it?
Emery
The one I was on was about 6β² tall.
David
But did it have any differentiated features that you could identify with the autopsy?
Emery
That was the problem. Those pieces of equipment they gave me to utilize to take the specimens did not work, because the tissue was fluid.
So we were just using syringes, basic syringes, and needles, and special suction devices. And we were sucking just very small amounts of different parts of the body.
And I donβt know where this being . . . that was my own conclusion, by the way.
I donβt know where this being came from, or how it even got there.
Later on, I learned more about extraterrestrials, and thatβs how I put two and two together.
And, of course, you know, transdimensional travel with extraterrestrials, and how they do it, and so forth.
David
So I would assume this had some sort of thicker membrane to hold the fluid in.
Emery
Yeah, it did. It was about a centimeter thick. And it reminded me of a very thick Jell-O. And when you cut it, it had a glow to it β when you cut it.
David
Inside?
Emery
Yeah, kind of like a cyalume light stick glow.

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David
Wow!
Emery
Yeah. And then it would just go away. And then thatβs when they said, βNo more cutting. Start using needles and suction,β β very, very sharp suction devices we have that are very, very small, like 30-gauge suction devices, like 30-gauge-needle-type suction devices. And we were taking VERY small amounts of different parts of the body.
David
What would you say the viscosity of the liquid was inside? Was it like water, or was it more like a thick syrup, or . . .
Emery
Yeah, it was like a clear maple syrup. And there was parts inside that you could see that were giving off light β pink and purple and yellow.
But it looked like they had shapes, because this is a translucent being, but itβs like youβre looking into a clear Jell-O. So itβs distorted β what that was.
But they would not let us take any samples of the colored liquid.
Maybe someone else did, because it was so compartmentalized.
A lot of beings . . . A lot of different technicians had different things they did.
And I wasnβt that advanced at that time. So I did very simple things.
David
I think probably one of the hardest things for people watching this is going to be, βCome on, man!β
Emery
Yeah.
David
You didnβt try to ask anybody a question about what these things are, or where they came from?
Emery
No, no. I signed a very big briefing document, and I knew what I was kind of getting into. I thought I was going to be actually doing just cadaver work on soldiers, but it wasnβt.
When I got in there, it started escalating. And then I knew how serious it was.
And I have also heard of stories, whether they were true or not, of people talking after hours and things. And, you know, theyβd go missing really quickly.
So it was a very high turnover rate for technicians there, for clinical specialists, that were doing this type of work.
So I was really good at keeping secrets and keeping my mouth shut. And it got me really far. It was frustrating to a point, but I was so intrigued, and it was so, you know . . . I was just so enthralled with it.
I actually kind of got obsessed with going to work and wanting to know more and more and more, because I was coming up with my own conclusions.
And then I just started studying it on my own, which, there was really nothing out there at that time for that kind of extremeβ¦
David
Did they monitor your usage of like a library card or Internet orβ¦
Emery
Everything that I had was completely under full surveillance, 24/7. That was part of the deal, too.
And anyone that was with me would always be . . . not . . . they wouldnβt TELL them, but anyone, my friends or anything. So it was hard to have friends and relationships.
Even up to this day, itβs very hard for me to have anyone close to me, because Iβm afraid for them to . . . you know, something would happen to them, because Iβve basically lost everyone so far.
David
Thatβs right. And very soon after you lost all your stuff is when the brakes went out on my car.
Emery
I remember that.
David
All right. One of the things that I think we should cover here is the awesome size of the facility that you were working in, because we kind of got into that with the colored lines before. But if you personally are saying that you . . . Well, again, tell us how many different unique species did you appear to have seen?
Emery
Well, Iβll say βspecimensβ, because I count my specimens as a species. Whether it was a real extraterrestrial, or it was something grown in a lab, or if it was just a disinformation piece of tissue they would throw out every now and then to technicians, which is very common in case something happens, so you wonβt be credible.
And so I would say a little bit over 3,000. And donβt forget, you could do up to 10 to 20 examinations in one day if you were just doing very small harvesting biopsies of small tissue, just for DNA alone.
And then you might have one that would last you a week of analyzing, and collecting specimens, and giving reports to specific individuals.
And sometimes there would be more than one person that would come in and observe you, and say, βNo, do this,β or βDo that,β instead of using the speaker phone head system for some reason. I donβt know.
David
What would be the first thing that you would see when you pick up your folder?
Emery
It basically had basic stuff on it, like time, date, your room, you know, a βRed 12β, what they want you to exactly transect: βJust pull out the nerve,β βJust pull out the muscle,β βJust take this amount of tissue,β βJust draw up this amount of ccβs of this liquid from this part of the bodyβ.
It was very definitive of exactly what you were going to do.
And time was . . . They were really big on time and performance. So you would go in there, and you would not know what your second one would be on that pad. So you wouldnβt know until you completed your first one.
David
So you might only have, letβs say, 60 minutes to work on one cadaver?
Emery
They donβt give you time. You do what you do. But the faster that you do these things, and the more proficient that you are at it, they like you. You know, of course, Iβm moving more samples than anyone else.
So⦠And I was used to harvesting human tissue, anyway, with harvest transplants and stuff. So it was very easy for me to fall into this category and do these procedures.
David
Did they tell you what surgical instruments to use? Did they have that much of a protocol, or did you have some freedom?
Emery
Well, I pretty much have access to anything. There was a few times I went on the intercom and said, you know, βHey, I need this.β βI need a number 11 blade,β or βI need a rongeur of this size.β It depends what it was.
But most everything is in that room that you could get from the wall. And if not, they would put it through, and you would get it, like, immediately, within a couple of minutes.
David
In the late 1990s, this alleged alien autopsy film came out β the Santilli autopsy film. I assume youβve seen that.
Emery
Iβve heard about it. I didnβt follow much up on it. I remember at the time, I did review it. Yeah.
David
Now one of the weird things about that film is that theβ¦ and thereβs debate to this day, and mythology, as to whether itβs real or whether it was a very skillful fraud, but one of the weird things is that they peel this black thing off the eye, . . .

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Emery
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
David
β¦and then the eyes are like looking up into the head underneath.
Emery
Absolutely. Yeah. A lot of the extraterrestrials that Iβve actually seen, their skulls and heads and stuff always had film over them, unless it was already taken off by somebody else. And it wasnβt always black and green like you hear in the stories. It could be many different colors. Iβve seen violet. Iβve seen pink. Iβve seenβ¦ but that film is always there.
David
Really!
Emery
Thereβs always some sort of film or cap over the eye. And it kind of like conforms to the exact . . . whatever eye shape it is, whether you have a diamond eye, or a trapezoidal eye, or a hexagon eye, or a round eye. Theyβre not always round, by the way.
And itβs just right over there. And Iβm not sure. I always thought thatβs how we back-reverse-engineered night vision and infrared, is through the reverse-engineering of these ETs that they found, way back when, in the Navy.
And I remember hearing some generals talk about how they took these films off, and those were light-gathering and also light-suppressing films that were not biological, by the way.
David
Was there like a βGoogle Glassβ component to it, like a heads-up display with information that you see?
Emery
No. Iβm sure that most of these beings, if they were here, they have already telepathic . . . everything is projected into their consciousness and brain.
So Iβm pretty certain they wouldnβt have any cool helmets, or chairs, or anything like that they sit down in. It doesnβt exist.
When I see these craft people show on TV, on a couple of shows I saw, theyβre like showing these cockpits, and all these buttons. And Iβm like, wow, they have no idea.
David
Did you find evidence of beings with hardware, like technology hardware in their bodies?
Emery
Yeah, yeah.
David
And what types of hardware?
Emery
Yeah, not just even hardware, but also on the outside of the bodies, which is really neat, such as things that come out of their head to their mouth and nose, from the back of the head.
I found many types of β which would show up on X-ray β cylinders inside the body. But I was never allowed to take one out or to touch it. I donβt know what it was used for, but they were always cylindrical, like capsules, like that you take with vitamins.
David
Like that size.
Emery
Like that kind of size. And they could be . . . I mean, no, that shape⦠but many different sizes. And sometimes in many different places of the body.
And I donβt know if that was put in there by us, or thatβs just something that they use for theirβ¦ to help communicate with us or something.
I had a feeling that it was more of an adapting process for the body to maybe survive in this atmosphere. And it could have been a field, too, to protect the body.
Thereβs many extraterrestrials that have fields around the body. You canβt . . . Itβs very thin, and itβs very small. You canβt see it, but itβs so thin. Itβs microscopic. But itβs there, and it protects the whole body from this atmosphere.
And I think these other devices that we see coming out of the ears or the head, that come around over the mouth and nose, probably has to do with atmospheric breathing and communication. My belief, anyway.
David
The reason why I ask that is that you described them seeming to be downloaded with information. You said that they wouldnβt need a heads-up display on these little things that cover their eyes.
So is that some sort of wet-wired technological interface with their consciousness?
Emery
Yeah, I think a lot of them have advanced to this consciousness-assisted technology that they either implanted into themselves, or, just because of them growing over millions of years and forming into these amazing beings, have developed ways and sciences that we cannot even understand or comprehend, because we wouldnβt understand the science, because the science doesnβt exist yet.
It would all be there already inside the being.
Weβre talking about beings that have obviously traveled billions of light years, or thousands of light years, to get here. So they have mastered this travel across the universe, and maybe even transdimensionally.
So it would only be well-suited to believe or think that β and thatβs just my hypothesis, by the way β that they would have this technology already ensued in them.
David
If we have this wet-wire interface, could there be, in certain cases, a sort of booby-trap effect where that would self-destruct the body so that it couldnβt be identified? Do you think that was ever happening?
Emery
What I do believe in, what I have heard second-hand from being in the projects, is: a lot of these beings that came to the planet were actually clones of their own β the 3D ones that were actually maybe captured β were actually clones of their own. They were like programmed life form beings. So they clone them, they program themβ¦
David
They clone themselves, like their own body?
Emery
Right. They clone themselves, or theyβll clone a similar being from them.
And theyβllβ¦ Programmed Life Form. We call them PLFs.
And these PLFs areβ¦ Theyβre half cybernetic and theyβre half organic. And so they can move very fluid, like a person. You would not even know.
And when they crash or whatever, sometimes ETs actually want to crash their vehicles here to help upgrade us so they [humans] can reverse-engineer the stuff. And the bodies they find are actually just these PLFs that maybe last a week or up to a year with no sustenance.
But they found that out the hard way. When they were capturing these β and most of them were dead when they crashed β and they were putting them in alcohol or formaldehyde, and the body would instantly just dissolve.
Because itβs not like something we would catch here and put in our lab, an animal, or a human hand, or a brain, or something that has a very strong tissue, collagen structure.
It was made up of a synthetic structure.
So they started using saline and special types of water and plasmas.
David
On the 50-year anniversary of the Roswell crash in 1997, Colonel Philip Corso came out with the book, βThe Day After Roswellβ.
And one of the testimonies that he had in that book was that the original Roswell beings⦠our government was very confused, because they basically had, like, a tube that went from the esophagus to the anus. And there was really no⦠digestive system.
Emery
Right.
David
So how does that relate to this PLF thing?
Emery
Thatβs exactly what a PLF would look like. The design of that β and I have worked on clones and PLFs before . . . There is no digestive tract or anything, but theyβre somehow able to have an electrical charge in them that is sustained for a while, that helps the muscles, and their bodies, and also transmit data to whoever sent them.
And they donβt need . . . I mean, I donβt know what that tube is for, but I know exactly what he was talking about, because weβve seen these tubes.
And maybe they have something that they have to take, because weβve seen multiple tubes that go off of this tube β like a treeβ¦ a branch. Yeah. But it doesnβt go anywhere. It just goes into this spongy tissue, which is made up of muscle, and just tendons and stuff.
And also incorporated with that is a type of metal, and other info-, exo-, not an exoskeleton, but an inner skeleton that keeps these beings, I guess, alive for the mission.
And I think each one of those are made for every different mission they have, whether itβs crashing into the ocean and giving us some stuff, or carrying outβ¦ collecting lavender in a field or something.

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David
The material, genetically, that makes a PLF, is that grown, or does it have to be actually taken from another being? How do you get the material, the biological material?
Emery
Unlike here, where we grow stuff on Earth, like beings and clones and hybrids, extraterrestrials actually formed this through harmonics and frequency and sound.
So they can make anything, cells, or synthetic cells, which Iβm pretty certain theyβre synthetic, through some of the stuff that Iβve collected.
And, by the way, Iβve never got to see an actual synthetic cell under a microscope, or an electron microscope. but just from debriefings I have been on and things that Iβve seen with my physical eyes, I can tell the tissue was not real tissue, but it was operational tissue.
Just like today, they have pieces of synthetic things they can put in your body to replace a tendon or help strengthen a vessel. You know, we put vessels in all the time.
David
Just to be clear, though, if youβre saying itβs a synthetic cell, it would still have amino acids and proteinsβ¦ consistent with life.
Emery
Right.
David
Itβs not like itβs made out of plastic.
Emery
Yeah, thatβs what Iβm saying. Itβs more of a hybrid of synthetic and real organisms, but itβs not one or the other. Because from what β this is second-hand β what I heard, they didnβt have mitochondria in them, and they didnβt have DNA, but the cell did operate the way it was supposed to operate.
David
Weird.
Emery
Yes, very weird.
David
If thereβs no mitochondria, how does it have energy?
Emery
Yeah, good question. Thatβs science that I wouldnβt even know about yet.
But that is something thatβs asked.
David
Can they culture, like, a small sample of tissue, and then make a lot more, and then use that to grow one of these . . .
Emery
I believe, personally, thatβs what theyβre trying to do with all these samples. I wasnβt in on that.
I do not know. Iβve heard that . . . Of course, most of the samples are not just tested.
They are trying to learn how to hybridize these cells with human cells, and trying to grow things in the lab by mixing these cells together, is what theyβre trying to do.
And I didnβt find that out βtil way later down the road, by the way. So THAT I do know.
David
If there are synthetic aspects to the cell, what would be something that we might identify? Would we find molecules? Would we find alloys? Is there metals in the cell?
What kind of things might be unusual?
Emery
Well, the unusual things that Iβve heard after thisβ¦ and this is not me seeing the cell. Just so you know, Iβve seen briefings on my folder. I went through many things where they had pictures of these cells, but I did not see this. I did not personally see the cell.
They had many different shapes. And they hadβ¦ A lot of them were geometric, which is weird, becauseβ¦ that means itβs a lattice. Itβs notβ¦ Like, cells are spheres, most of them.
Or maybe theyβre a concave disk, like a red blood cell, which is a very unique design. But these cells were more of a lattice. So they formed shapes, and they formed honeycombs and different things, and they definitely had an electrical output to them. And where that came from, I donβt know.
So they kind of ran off, I think, their own field of the energy of the Earth for a certain amount of time.
And maybe that tube was used to put certain elements in to help with the electrical part of the body, because those were all temporary β the ones that were found here.
But Iβm sure they have ones that last a lifetime.
David
Iβm trying to help the skeptics along here, just in terms ofβ¦ You know, a healthy skeptic, I think, would ask healthy skeptical questions.
We seem to view biological material, clone material, as being rare, valuable, hard to make. And youβre talking about beings that are like plastic bags.
Emery
Right.
David
Like one week and theyβre done. So how could these genetic materials be so abundant that they would be that disposable?
I guess Iβm having a hard time understanding.

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Emery
Oh, thatβs easy. I mean, number one, these beings, Iβm telling you, they can make anything they want. They donβt need our gold. They donβt need our sperm or our eggs.
I mean, thatβs something they could do on their own.
They donβt need to come here. If anything, theyβre trying to preserve us. But they donβt needβ¦ Theyβre trying to preserve this DNA at THIS time, maybe.
But getting back to your question, is that right now, even in OUR projects, right now we have the ability to 3D print any organ in your body that you need. A lung? No problem.
A heart? No problem β with your DNA, using your cells from the tissue from the broken or dead organ, or from another part of the body.
David
Wow!
Emery
Because enfolded in the DNA is actually every part of your body.
David
Right, of course.
Emery
And thatβs whatβs so cool. And when you open the DNA up, I can say, βOh, hereβs Daveβs heartβ, put it in the computer, and now the printer will print your heart.
And now we can do a heart transplant with your own heart, but weβll give you one a little bit younger and stronger. And weβll juice it up.
David
I want to toss in something that my insider, Jacob, said to me once, which was that we are currently believing that neurological tissue cannot be regrown.
And, yet, he had reports of people who had been through catastrophic spinal cord injuries, and that even if the nerve fibers had completely gone dead, and rotted, and been reabsorbed by the body, that they could put this thing at the base of the spinal cord in the neck, and that the nerves would just grow back into the body, and the person would get all their function back.
Emery
Absolutely true. And even on a medieval way, like with a system they created with stem cells, harvesting them from fat and bone marrow and blood, we have had amazing experiences with quadriplegics and people who have had really bad spinal cord injuries come back.
And so with the neural stuff, we CAN grow any cell. There is not a cell we canβt grow. Thatβs fake. Thatβs false what they want you to believe. And thatβs whatβs the truth.
David
Do you believe, as other types of insiders have said, that there is a negative aspect to our planet at this time that is seeking to reduce population dramatically?
Emery
I do believe that. And you can see it every day. Itβs not hard.
I hate to call out corporation names, but, you know, and things that are going on everywhere with politics, because I try to stay neutral.
But yes. I mean, you can just look around and see. Itβd be so easy to do.
I mean, if there was just no electric [electricity] for a couple of days, and Iβm diabetic, and I canβt get to a Walgreens for my insulin shot.
You know how many people in the world have that. So, I mean, these little things that you donβt really think about. It would look so harmless that all these people died, but, you know, if it was an intentional way to do it.
David
So what Iβm getting at here is, if youβre saying that any part of the body could be grown, I assume that would also mean if somebody loses their arm, you could grow another arm for them in a vat or something and attach it, right?
Emery
Oh, itβs beyond that. If I have just a few of your DNA thatβs not completely destroyed β itβs not completely dead β we can actually just take that DNA and make your whole body back, because it enfolds within it all the consciousness things that you have endured through this lifetime like a hard drive.
And youβre still you.
And we can grow that β your whole body.
David
Would there have to be some sort of biologically-based broth, or something, that you have to feed these cells with in order to get them to grow?
Emery
Yeah. Itβs protein, amino acid based β the very basis of life. All of the things that you hear about is what itβs full of. And the computer knows when to add collagen, when to add osteocytes and osteoclasts, and all these different cells in the body to help reform it.
And sometimes there is a glitch in the printer, and some things happen, but it immediately puts the cells in there to fix it, which is amazing.
David
Really?
Emery
Yes. And these are huge vats that, you know⦠You can basically regrow yourself, if needed.
David
We have just a couple minutes left, but one of the things I wanted to cover is, in previous episodes, you talked about seeing what may have been a 10β² tall Reptilian in custody. But then you very β I would almost say flippantly β βOh, yeah, it couldβve just been something we grew.β Like itβs no big deal.
Emery
Itβs no big deal. We can growβ¦
David
How did you get to the point of knowing that that could have been done?
Emery
Because thatβs why I went into the regenerative part and started learning a little bit more about what they were doing with growing cells and growing things.
David
βTheyβ who?
Emery
The labs. Weβll call them the labs. And what they were trying to do, like I said, is also make fake extraterrestrialsβ¦ to makeβ¦ just have them in their back pocket just in case, to make them look good, bad, evil, or happy, or healthy, or scary, or good-looking, whatever they wanted to do. And they did. Theyβre very successful with it.
So thatβs why I said, when I saw this being, this species or whatever, maybe . . . I donβt know where that came from. I canβt tell you.
I could say that I believe it was real. And it was smelly and breathy. You know, it breathed.
But thatβs where PLFs come in, too. So programmed life forms are the same thing: are grown species that are programmed to do certain things, certain jobs.
David
Without naming anyone specifically, I have a story about one of our former presidents, and this idea that they can be cloned, and that you might be seeing someone who looks exactly the same, but it could be a totally different biological form than the one thatβs the real one. Are you aware of that?
Emery
Yes, I am.
David
Okay. So is there some problem with the clone in terms of, like, if you had a conversation with it, does it have the same memories? Is it aware that itβs a clone?
Emery
No.
David
Or does it think itβs the same person?
Emery
Itβs not like I was telling you earlier when we take your DNA and make you.
Itβsβ¦ We take partial parts of your DNA, make you as a clone without the consciousness part of it. So weβ¦ Itβs programmed into you. We program the memories into you.
You might think you had a family, and that you knew that you took this job to look like this president. Up to date, all the way back.
They could even make more clones to be put with you to make you think you have a family, or you would just think. Or maybe they just need you for one job.
David
Wow! This is really intense.
Thatβs all the time we have in this episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Iβm your host, David Wilcock, and we are here with Emery Smith, exposing the truth about very advanced genetic programs involving extraterrestrial biology.
Thanks for watching.










