History Proves Transgenderism…Does That Make It “Right”? – June 12, 2023

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Editor’s Note: ( Many thanks to reader N. for this share!)

71 thoughts on “History Proves Transgenderism…Does That Make It “Right”? – June 12, 2023”

  1. Yeah, and crazy Obambie made it so they can go in the woman’s bathroom, I’m sure they’ve been doing that for a long time now….I have no problems with it as long as they aren’t some predator pretending to be a woman and going in there after kids or women….as if that never happens.

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  2. I have no problem with LBGTQ+ or even whatever tatoo, make-up, clown face/mask/persona you want to present to the world. Just don’t tell me my child needs to follow in your footsteps. Sexuality used to be something intimate & personal & private & special. Now it’s a parade & flags & all kinds of promotion. I look forward to a time when it becomes a personal/private thing again. I’m no prude but I’m not out there flashing my private parts & singing the praises of heterosexual sex.

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    1. Well said! Intimacy is a very powerful experience…I’ve always said an orgasm is like touching the face of God! A wonderful example of BEing human…🌹😊💕

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    2. It’s crazy, I saw a Dr. Phil clip where they are wanting schools and offices to put free tampons in the restrooms for trans who don’t have periods, and a fifth grade teacher called her out, telling her that men don’t menstrate….it was quite funny cuz he pointed out that a man is someone born with xy chromosomes…no they don’t have periods, don’t need tampons, and a woman has xx chromosomes…the lady just sat there with her mouth open, something I’m sure many wanted to tell them…it’s just ridiculous to entertain this gender dysphoria is a mental illness and they want to normalize mental illness and call the sane people crazy.

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      2. I plan to get myself changed, when the chance come, I don’t see myself as ‘mentally ill’ , Muse, nor am I an agent of darkness.

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      3. Yes, Neil…but your situation is different from the others who have gender dysphoria cuz the schools are teaching this ideology, and confusing children, trying to take the parents rights away by chemcials and surgeries on their children. Your not liking your human body for a whole different reason, so most people or children and young adults have gender dysphoria, a mental illness that usually works itself out once puberty hits, or they deal with the reason they hate their body in the sex they were born in. Some could be chemical, but most are mental. Sometimes it comes from abuse, sexual or mental abuse and the child feels like if they are the opposite sex that they won’t be attractive to the person abusing them. There’s many reasons but most grow out of it. There shouldn’t be a medical process for changing their sex or gender before the age of 18, at least then if they decide that they don’t want to be a girl or a boy, then ok.
        In your case you don’t have a problem with your gender so much as it’s not even your species, although there is species dysphoria as well, but if you look at those that claim to be a cat or a wolf, then there is certainly some delusional thing going on there where a child was allowed to claim that is the reality of them when it was just their imaginations and pretending fantasy.
        So…Neil, I don’t include you in the ‘gender dysphoria’ realm, we’re talking about a trans social ideology started with Kinsey and a psyop attacking our family unit…they can’t even define what a woman is. That is how crazy they are.

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      5. @Muse

        No, I hate being a MAN as well.

        And making someone WAIT until 18 will NOT help folks….see, puberty can be BRUTAL…..before puberty, I could pass for a girl….if you saw a picture of me as a kid, and a picture of my mom the same age, you’d think you’d be looking at the same individual. Come puberty…..deeper voice, hair on places I NEVER wanted, HAIR LOSS at age SIXTEEN. How’s that all good? You REALLY want some young person to undergo THAT? Not to mention Florida and Texas, two of THE biggest bible belt places, wanting to make younger folks to ‘ween off hormones’ is going to make things NOT good. Just gonna cause resentment, anger, not to mention suicide.

        Look at me, look how puberty went for me….-sarcastic tone- I’M so HAPPY!!!!!! *angry, defeated face* You want them to be like ME, eh?

        You DO know that trans people have families, too. MAYBE instead of treating trans folks like MONSTERS, treat them like people. Remember….OTHER cultures, NOT touched by Abrahamic religion not only accepted trans folks, but embraced them.

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      6. Neil, you case is different, in now way should a child be taking puberty blockers or changing their sex before they have matured…even the first man to trans to a woman transed back and said he was told being a woman would solve his problem…well, it didn’t.
        Being in your male human body and doing surgeries and all the hormones in the world aren’t gonna make you a woman, and besides that, you don’t want to be human, you want to go back to your previous female E.T.
        IT IS CHILD ABUSE TO DO THESE MEDICAL PROCEDURES ON A CHILD, What happened to you is not the usual case, they are telling kids in school they can be what ever they want….or making them affirm it because it’s big money for them….another big pharma money making deal .

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      7. Thank you, Muse! Child sex change action certainly disallows the child’s personal choice, which may be societal conditioning? 😊🌹💕

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      8. @Muse
        IF I could have gotten those blockers, operations and hormones as a kid, I’d have WELCOMED it. I WISH that would have happened to ME, IF I had to be forced on this planet, why could I have not been born in 1999, rather than 1979….I could have had a chance at SOMETHING, at least.

        Walk a mile in my iron boots, folks. *drops mic and walks off*

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      9. Sure Neil, but they couldn’t fully fix your problem because they can’t fix being a man either at this time…those PUBERTY blockers kill and kids, it’s a short term remedy, for a bit till you figure out that youve been given a death sentance, you probably wouldn’t still be around if you got puberty blockers…some got osteoperosis from it and other things that old people get. And no, puberty once stopped will not continue without the drugs…they are lying to people about it, they won’t tell these kids or parents who go along with it, that these drugs will harm them and shorten their lives.
        You think that those kids or people are happy once they trans? Have you even looked into the longterm affects of the drugs? Matt Walsh interviewed a trans/man(biological woman) and she/he had 7 surgeries, so much health issues and knows that he/she don’t have long to live now that they have been on synthetic hormones and the drugs that make her appear as a man.
        So do you think your problems would be resolved if you just became a human woman…or the appearance of a woman? Because at this time, they do not have the technology or drugs to change your chromosomes to xx from an xy. Do you think you’d be ‘happy’ or ‘happier’ even knowing that your life will be cut short by those drugs or you’ll get cancer or some other illness and not feel so good, but heck, you ‘look’ like a woman?
        If so…then do it and be happy….or happier will you can get those dog gone aliens to land in your yard and help you get into your old body.

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      12. @Cindy
        “You are here as you are for a very good reason”
        What, to go through pain, suffering and misery?

        Please….STOP INSISTING I chose to come here….There is NO good in ANY of this. You’re trying to find the bright side of a plane crash, stop while you are ahead.

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      13. Neil, there is ALWAYS a bright side to every situation… including yours!

        You, yourself have such love inside that is do very well hidden beneath all of your pain. You are love! 😊🌹💕❤️

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      14. It seems to me, that your uber- frustration certainly colors your reckoning for “exactly” how others feel. I know you communicate well with others frustrated by their own sexual circumstances. I wish for all to BE well! 😊🌹💕

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      16. Oh, I think we have been to the moon…it just wasn’t televised, and no, I don’t think that we went to the moon in the 60s and televised that crap from the moon. But we have since then back engineered tech and they have the tech, 100 years at least ahead of what they tell us.
        Our history has been a lie…that is the truth.
        But they been working with them ETs for decades if not longer. Who do you think came and got Ezekiel, Enoch? LOL, they were space ships.

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      19. @Muse
        Plus IF we never went to the moon, as I asked before, WHY have all these large, glass structures, bits of machinery and ROBOT HEADS laying about? Why not use a bland, boring, ‘safe’ studio set? Also, when in 1972, the astronauts turned the camera away from something they were examining. Kind of a lot of redundant efforts if it was all a fake.

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      21. @Muse

        1: I’D be happy, even if I just LOOK and SOUND like a woman, at LEAST. IF I am doomed to be a human, I’d need to be feminine….and to me, a girl is a girl, regards of genitals, as I said before, Bailey Jay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENpbEKKnC0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkTr7r_yps is FAR more feminine, and womanly than a lot of women I see, especially in MY neck of the woods…for every one feminine woman here, there’s about a HUNDRED of the wives seen in “Last of the Summer Wine”, who are as feminine as a bag of hammers. And 95% of my school teachers were THIS in the flesh –> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JhS3Tsrkro

        2: FUCK Matt Walsh, I don’t CARE what that Wesley Crusher’s evil clone has to say. I remember the CRAP he spewed, and we always hear from the WALSH side, the anti trans side….NEVER from the positive trans side. Might I suggest Youtube’s Jesse Gender, especially since she and Evil Wesley locked horns a few times. Also, I know a lovely trans woman, in her 60’s, she transitioned as a teenager, and she’s in perfect health and looks better than girls half her age, care to explain her? Or Bailey Jay for that matter, she’s still going strong, doing her things. The ones who are sick, more likely than not, did it wrong, or had shitty doctors.

        3: No drugs or operations can help me. As I said, puberty was HORRIFIC for me….hence why I STILL stand FOR young people getting the treatments they need, puberty damaged me….deeper voice, the hair loss (and guess what, in my family, there are NO bald people….ONLY my grandma, on my mom’s, side, and that was because she, for at LEAST the past 40+ years, did her hair the same way, a ridiculous helmet style, which consisted of a LOT of hair spray and other harsh chemicals. After decades of that nonsense, her hair is pretty much this thin, near transparent ‘shell’ of helmet hair, and her 50+ years of popping pain killers, which she did not need, she was ONLY being a JUNKIE, did not help, either, which is what killed her, last year. And no need for condolences, she was pretty much a Karen all the years I know her. Point is why was I the ONLY one to go bald, no one else did, my grandpa, who died 10 years ago, at the age of 93 had a full head of hair….why did it only pick on ME, and at such a young age? Why do we even HAVE hair loss, I mean what do you NEED it for? Another ‘gift’ from the Archons, I’d wager), and out of control facial hair. No hair on my head, YET I can grow a full beard that would put Evil Welsey Crusher Clone to shame within a week. It’s too late for the conventional to help me, one, of many, reasons I NEED the aliens…and to those people who say, “GO WITHIN!”, can shove it up their you know wheres.

        And IF I am doomed to die on this twisted planet, as a human, in an ugly, masculine body, my soul’s gonna after BOTH the evil and the good aliens, and I’m gonna do what Doctor Who did in regards to the Time War between the Time Lords of Galifrey and the Daleks of Skaro….wipe out BOTH sides and end the war, for KEEPS.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVBX7l2zgRw But actually mean it, unlike Kenobi,

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      22. Such anger, such hurt, such frustration played over, and over. Such venom… 😳🌹How can we help you? 😊 We love you, Neil, as You are part of All That Is!❤️

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      23. Cindy, the only way we can help him is if we have a connection with some ET group and get him outta here…basically that is all he has decided is the resolution t his problem. He sees no other way, but I think he believes that the ET’s are some kind of miracle workers, and from what I’ve read about the med beds, even then, it is limited in that it needs the original DNA template and can only fix certain things and or age regression.
        So not sure if even they can help him unless they have his DNA from his previous body.
        But hey, if you know anyone in touch with the ETs? The only one I have seen that actually talks to them regularly, and Enki who was a scientist, and geneticist, even needed our original DNA template to undo what he did so long ago.
        Elena Danaan so far as I know is in contact with them. Steven Greer made a press conference the other day for disclosure, but I can’t count how many times this has been done. I’ve seen Tucker even talk like one time about UFO’s or whatever they are calling them now, and supposedly, AGAIN, they want to start a group to STUDY them as if they just started noticing them, and this to me is ridiculous. Why would we need to study them when we have been working with them for decades if not longer?

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      24. Muse…such a great heart you have! We are all hear on Earth to learn we are Quantum, and thus…ONE! As individual and unique fractals of ONE, we guide and support each other as best we can, yet…the “issue” of Neil’s existence here on Earth is HIS to deal with.
        Many have tried to help Neil better understand Who He Is…a Quantum fractal of ONE. The aliens he feels aligned with are Also Quantum parts of ONE! As painful as this may be for Neil.., there is no “fixing” things for him as this is his issue to resolve, or not!
        Neil is creative, imaginative, and communicates extremely well. IF he truly is seeking a “way out” of his current environment, don’t you think his research would have already led to him to contact COBRA for knowledge, or Elena for information? Neil tells us his hands are tied due to age/upbringing/social standing, but I beg to differ. Instead of TRUELY searching for how to change himself to his needs, Neil would rather rant and rave, while watching us all with amusement trying to “change” him.
        Has he ever thanked any of us for caring about him/his situation?
        I love Neil, because I can remember how I felt when growing up as an ugly duckling…too tall, skinny, glasses, braces! Never went to a prom, but did go the senior Homecoming dance so my dAte could keep an eye on “his girl” he had just broken up with!
        Yet, Neil does not want any of us to love him, as he is CONVINCED he, in his current form is…unlovable. No one has ever really shared love with him, so why should he bother?
        Neil… you are reading this, and I ask you open your heart for help as many want to love you and help you! ❤️🌹💕

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      25. I know…he looks externally for his solution, he could being human change things if he quit focusing on the exterior and on his heart so that shows on the outside and others will see it.
        Beauty isn’t just skin deep..
        talk to those cells in your body, talk to your DNA, they can be influenced by your thoughts…it’s like God talking to them.
        I agree Cindy, love is the key.

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      27. I hear ya Neil. I think alot of people, or as children, and that is VERY FEW, who ‘think’ they were born in the wrong gender or more or less a sort of bleed thru, from their previous life, and they still feel like the gender they were in a previous body. That is what happened to you, you are still in your body from before, and despise the body you were born into. I get that.
        But in human BIOLOGY, now let’s talk SCIENCE….at this time, technology and drugs are NOT available, and it’s basically experimental and they do not know the long term reprocussions of said drugs except for some they started years ago, and now just finding out how harmful they are.
        Our bodies NEED puberty to be healthy, it’s not personal…it’s not against you, but they know NOTHING about how to ‘fix’ people like you who are still in their body from their previous life.
        Also, they have NO technology yet to change the chromosomes or the ability to change sex without cutting up a person.
        So with that, parents need to think hard about doing something to their child that might ruin their health or their life. Most of the suicides are by those that have already transitioned and still it didn’t fix their problem.
        The woman who transition to a male in the Matt Walsh documentary of ‘what is a woman’ has many health issues and was growing hair in his/her throat, she/he had 7 surgeries only to find out that all these hormones and surgeries have shortened his/her life and SHE has children, and doesn’t want them to be ‘chemically castrated’ or anything that is gonna shorten or ruin their health like what has been done to her.
        Purberty in your mind may have ruined your life, but you couldn’t of changed that cuz it would happen either way, eventually, and then health issues with the hormones and surgeries that these doctors do certainly aren’t telling people the long term effects if they even know it.
        So until they have the tech or ability to change ones chromosomes without harming the biological processes of the body, there’s nothing they can do about it at this time.
        So your only option is to trans with drugs and surgeries, and that is the sad truth….or get the aliens to come and get you and fix you with their tech if that is possible. Even that is limited and is said they need DNA or an original DNA template to fix what’s been done to humanity which Enki is supposedly brought back to make up for the things they did to us when they came to this planet thousands of years ago.

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      29. @Cindy
        Watch Rambo 1 and 2, watch the hell he goes through, I go through that EVERY FUCKING DAY. I have to always find a reason NOT to eat a bullet. So, yea, Cindy, I’m sure as hell am fucking ANGRY, damn it. It’s not all ‘Nameste!” or “LOVE AND LIGHT!” or “RAINBOWS AND LOLLIPOPS!”. As I said before, if I would only use ONE word to describe what the darkies did to me, even BEFORE I was conceived….that would would be…..

        ….rape.

        @Muse

        Again, I say FUCK MATT WALSH!!!! FUCK HIM! He said he declared war on transgenders, and thus, make life even harder for them…so, fuck him.
        I HIGHLY suggest you watch some of Jesse Gender’s videos, see it from the OTHER SIDE, not just what Evil Welsey Crusher has to say.

        https://www.youtube.com/@JessieGender1

        https://www.youtube.com/@jessiegenderafterdark5287

        Just search through her stuff, you’ll find it. See what transfolks themselves have to say, not what Matt Walshs and other haters say.

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      30. I appreciate your anger, Neil, yet ask you to avoid profanity. You communicate well without using profanity…Thank you! 😊🌹💕

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      31. I have watched trans videos, Many of them…some I agree with some I don’t. I especially liked Blair…but I’m not the one with a problem with trans, it’s what they are doing to kids…ok? There should be no law or nothing to force parents to give their kids these drugs. They need to wait till they have something that isn’t so harmful.
        I didn’t see Matt Walsh’s documentary as hateful, he couldn’t get anyone to talk to him about ‘what a woman is’ and had to listen to alot of psychobabble from these so called doctors who have no problem doing this to children.
        Do you have kids?
        If you did or ever do, tell me you’d just give them drugs to do what ever they want…no matter the cost…but that is your decision, but as for me and mine, I would wait till there was a way to help them without harming them.
        The trans should be careful what they ask for, right now they are running roughshod over everyone else, imposing on gynecologists, demanding they get pregnant and can have babies…it’s just so ridiculous. If they want to marry they should, but I wouldn’t want the state involved, and they should be careful what they ask for. When two people get married, under this current system, it is a financial merger between two corporations…that is why you need a license. Two strawman corporations merger.
        I won’t do that again anyway…but again, I don’t have a problem with trans, they can do what they want, just leave the kids alone.
        The trans thing isn’t what you even understand what the REAL reason they are doing this…it sure as heck isn’t because they love you and respect you.
        But you all will find out.
        Just be Happy Neil…no one can do that for ya.

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    3. @Cynthia
      Victorian times, and the 1950’s are over, Cynthia. I also heard the aliens are very open about sex and sexuality.

      Maybe the whole ‘behind closed doors’ thing most humans demand is the crazy way?

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      1. No Neil,
        It’s called intimacy, deep intimacy…between two consenting adults. Sexuality is just physical, intimacy is a whole different thing. Do we want kids and people having sex all over the place? Wouldn’t that just make us animals?

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      2. Nice response, Muse.
        Neil feels true ire regarding the circumstances of accepting this assignment on Earth at this “time” (interesting set of circumstances to get here!) which cause him to overlook the true purpose of sex in this environment.
        Sex (making love) is not about procreation, it IS about intimacy which yields the highest vibration on Earth which is constantly sought by all on Earth.
        Can this be achieved by a same-sex couple? You betcha…yet much harder to achieve in this Earth environment due to programming, cultural ideas,,etc.
        The dark are/will distort the ability of humans to achieve orgasmic intimacy in ANY way possible, i.e. gender dysphoria, “cheapening” the sexual act, attacking the gender identity of children.
        Wake up, Neil. Understand life on this Earth may have parameters which are outside of your personal approval. 💕🌹😊 Balance.

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      3. Publicity is the opposite of intimacy. Animals are not engaging in intimacy when they procreate. I think there is a level apart from animalistic sex, just like teenagers especially need privacy to develop, people need privacy to open their hearts to each other.

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      4. @Thankyourmuse
        Monogamy as the only way is more Archon mind control. As I said, I heard the aliens are a lot more open to things about sex than a lot of humans are.

        And the only thing that makes us different from animals, Muse, is that we don’t use our tongues to clean our own genitals.

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      5. Ok, Neil, coming from one who has an E.T. perspective, it is our human heart that we crave intimacy, and there are even animals that are monogomous, not saying that your opinion isn’t valid but at the end of the day, there are sexually transmitted diseases and sex here has been used to sell things, and deviancy turning what was meant to be a one on one intimate soul connection AS HUMANS, is something that we have, so the E.T.s can be/do what they want, but humanity is not like that, it is deep love and affection, intimacy and the only ones who have a problem with monogomy are those that can’t experience deep intimate love connection. It’s not an archon program, the archon program would have you in meaningless sexual relationships and not understanding the deep creative force of sex as opposed to just brushing your teeth.

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      8. Neil, I accept trans if they want to be a woman or man…just leave the kids alone…PERIOD.
        RELIGION has nothing to do with it. I could care less. Theres a trans woman/actually a man named Blair on youtube who admits it’s gender dysphoria, but she is quite mature and knew she’d get hate back at her but it’s THE TRUTH…trans people get bothered by the truth, let’s all just pretend we don’t have a problem and call them by politically correct pronowns and buy trans men tampons so they can FEEL included. It’s a demented appropriation of women and I take offense to it because I was born a woman and happy with it.
        I understand you aren’t…and I hope some day you get what you want. End of story. Trans people have been around a long time, they use to admit it is a mental illness, now they want to normalize it.

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      10. @Muse
        And you’re typing to someone who wants to wash their hands of being human, in addition to washing the masculine away.

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      11. Exactly, so you can’t judge humans on sexuality with an ET perspective of said insights in a human heart or POV of humans sexuality on an ET experience….from what I’ve read about the ET’s they don’t have the same ability as humans. They don’t have an emotional body and use tech to do thinks as opposed to humans who create with their minds.
        Do we care about your delimina? Yes, do we agree about your opinion of humans? NO Do we have compassion for you even though you hate humans? Yes.
        Seems like all you can do is find the negative in humans, in your ET view, and since you ARE human right now, your hatred for yourself and the vehicle you posess clouds your POV from innerstanding the power you have inside you just being human.
        You cannot get anywhere while you are in victimhood. We get that you are here against your will. And purposely placed in a place where you have been targeted for much abuse and pain to keep you there.
        If we could, I’d get hold of one of those ET races who could help you…they’re all over the place Neil. What are you doing to make this happen in your space of being, what are you doing to contact them and get them to help you?
        Nothing good happens in this reality without LOVE, it is a low frequency and keeps you stuck because of your hatred and victimhood. Use your human vehicle for good, use the tools you were given since you want so badly to be back to your old self, and hopefully we’ll hear from you somehow, that you have been successful and your attitude towards humanity isn’t so negative because not all humans are bad just like not all ET’s are good.
        WE’ve ALL had really tramatic experiences. You don’t get the prize for the most pain in life on this planet or matrix. As long as you are breathing, you can DO something about it….for you, not anyone else.
        We humans, at least on here, love and hope for you to be/do whatever your heart desires.

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      12. Thank you, Muse! Neil has a difficult time understanding his purpose here on Earth in this moment of NOW (No Other Way)! 😊🌹💕

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      14. @Muse

        BEING LEFT HANDED, or GAY, were considered illness or even evil, prior. Now left handed folks are accepted, as are gays (mostly), same thing is happening NOW with trans folks….coming out of the closet, as it were. And the ‘normies’ TRIED to ‘cure’ the gays in the past, with nasty therapy that would be called plain old torture, now. Imagine if someone walked up to you, and called you mentally ill, and kept at it again and again and again. Many of you folks don’t have to worry about either getting, or keeping a job, because of being trans. You don’t have to worry about being bullied or harassed being what you are, trans folks do. You don’t have to worry about getting attacked or even killed for being what you are, trans folks do.

        Imagine if Christianity would become considered a mental illness…..let’s see how Christians respond, hmmm?

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      15. LOL, you’re preaching to the choir Neil.
        I grew up in the Bible belt…I never agreed to the teachings…something was wrong with it in my mond.
        I’ve been laughed at and told I’m crazy…or too woo woo. I don’t believe being gay can be cured if it’s a physical state, and sometimes it’s hormonal or mental, and the reason for the mental disorder can be successfully remedied without a sex change or the person can pretend all they want. It matters not to me, I have friends who are gay, but it’s not like I wanted to change them or saw them as mentally ill. Like I said, it USE to be considered a mental illness and some are….some not.
        It is a mental disorder (not an illness) because you aren’t ‘happy’ with your sex you were born with. Psychologists answer for this is sex change surgery.

        I’ve seen videos of Trans wanting to make straight men who want to date REAL women, make them date them…they just can’t understand why they can’t date a straight man, and pretty sure if they could make it a law they would….just like they’ve done with the whole ‘pronoun’ crap.
        They call you transphobes if you don’t want to date them…it’s ridiculous!

        BUT THEY NEED TO LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE…
        What I don’t like about the trans agenda here is that they are going after kids…and being sexually deviant, drag queens lapdancing and getting kids to put dollars in their gstrings…it’s insane. Then they are putting them in libraries to read books to kids and asking them if they want to be a drag queen when they grow up as if that is an occupation to strive for in life and come to find out that these drag queens have been arrested for pedophilia and some how they think it’s a good idea to put them in libraries reading books to kids?
        Obviously you focus so much on the ‘trans’ victimazation of them, when many have been killed by christians for having a mole on their bodies and being accused of being a witch. Religion is a program, plain and simple. I’ve been discriminated against just because I’m a woman, and told by christianity that I’m beneath men. I’ve not known anyone who was killed because they were ‘trans’…I have heard of this happening, but also heard of prostitutes being killed cuz they are women by serial killers…so you really can’t blame the programing, it’s the person’s fault for doing such things, and not the religion…they allowed themselves to be brainwashed and no common sense. Trans made of less that .1% of the population, yet their rights trample over the individual rights of people and next, they’re gonna want to legalize pedos, and what do you say to that?
        Do you think it’s ok for a 40 year old man to date your 11 year old?

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      17. Transgender is an anomaly exaggerated by those of the dark to interfere with the human ability to thrive. Young folk are encouraged to explore, actually BEing another sex physically in order to specifically interfere with human society. Every human has the right to BE as they desire, once they achieve the internal Balance to achieve their desire. 😊🌹💕

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      18. Aliens have emotions, just like we do, Muse. Free will and emotion is not some exclusive thing for humans. And contrary to what SOME might say, I DO love myself….IF I did not, I’d have settled for being human, an ugly little man, and living on planet gulag. It’s like a fat person, they don’t hate themselves, just the fat, etc.

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      19. I never said you hate yourself Neil, and who knows if ET’s have emotion, it would seem they don’t when you find out what they have done to humanity for thousands of years. Especially children…we are food to them.
        In the Urantia book, the being that wrote it seemed so jealous of humans because we didn’t know our own power and just how powerful we were. From their perspective, they didn’t understand that humans have been toyed with, manipulated, dna altered, dumbed down ON PURPOSE, for their narrative, agenda what ever you wish to call it. We have also been victimized by ET’s and the Archons, which are dark essence A.I. and affect the mental state of humans. So one thing we do have in common with the ET’s is we’ve both been tortured, killed and placed on this prison planet as well….but for me, instead of squriming in my misery, I continue to look for solutions to any challenge that comes my way…I don’t give up.
        I know you won’t give up either…I know you are right about this place, it’s also a matrix, an illusion…the trap for your mind.
        I don’t know what we can do to help you get in contact with some ET’s that might help you get back to your planet, body and family.
        You have any ideas about how we can help you or what are you doing to get in contact with them? Let us know, I for one would love to hear you’ve made it and out of here.

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      20. Thank you, Muse! Quantum includes all-that-is, so thanks again for reminding Neil he has multiple options to ease his dilemma here on Earth which… he chooses to ignore. You are so very correct, we all love Neil, and want the best for him . Yet, the best remains fixed from his POV. He is unable to KNOW NEW BALANCE within…😊🌹💕

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      22. @Muse
        I know plenty of straight men who have dated, and even married trans women, be it post op or non op. And they don’t feel gay in the slightest, because it’s not about the genitals, it’s the quality of the person. Remember what that video of this entire topic discussed said, gender, sex and so on determined by chromosomes, mind and heart. These guys said they dont feel gay at all with a trans woman (Hell, Bailey Jay, a non-op trans girl, aka ‘a chick with a dick’, MARRIED some guy. And, Delia Delions, an older trans woman, she married a cis female, and looking at them, you’d think they were just an older lesbian couple), some even told me they’d feel gay if with certain cis females, like Rossie O’Donnell, Janet Reno, Madalyn Albright, or, in my case, 95% of my school teachers….don’t matter if that got vaginas, they were more like a bunch of guys in with bad 80’s perms and Ked’s sneakers. In an actual free society, even a minority gets rights and protections, otherwise we’d still have segregated schools, cafes, and it would be normal, and accepted to call black people ‘niggers’, or Asian people ‘chinks’, etc. And why lump a trans person alongside a pedophile, Muse? It’s similar to when the gays were fighting for marriage rights, nearly 20 years ago, during the middle of the Dubya presidency, where the anti gay folks kept saying “Yea, we let the gays marry…..and what if someone wants to marry a 9 year old?! What if someone wants to marry a horse?! What if someone wants to marry a dinette set?!”….what if, what if, what if….they always use ‘what if?!’ when a group of people, who did nothing wrong, stands up for themselves. Remember, less than a century ago an interracial couple, and both people died, were not even allowed to be buried in the same cemetery. Until the 1920’s, women could not vote, and that battle lasted 72 years. And the naysayers were pretty much saying the same things then, as they do now….like the whiny, crybaby baker who did not wanna sell cakes to a gay couple….he was like “WAAHHHHHH, you are discriminating me, not allowed me to discriminate against someone else, WAAHHHHH!!!” When does one form of discrimination, such as the Christians bitching about LGBT having ANY form of rights or respects (like the aforementioned baker with his cakes, or florida and texas wanting to even stop young people who chose to transition dead stop, even ‘weening’ them off their hormones, aka Hank Hill mentality) is OKAY…..yet some, like, again, the cry baby baker guy selling his cakes, or trans folks standing up to be treated with respect like everyone ELSE is BAD? I mean if a female to male trans man has a child…..don’t go ballistic, be HAPPY for him and his new family. If a transwoman gets a job as a cheerleader for a pro football team, be happy for her. If a transgender woman in Asia managed to get a job in government, be happy for her (hope she won’t go crooked like the rest). Wanting to have a happy life, is not a bad thing. And yes, there has been transfolks, and gays, who been murdered, be it out of religious bigotry or bruised ego (I bet Walsh met some hot chick, and found out she was trans, and probably more impressive down there than him…I seen cases like that, and the trans woman has either been beaten, or even killed in a fit of rage….to the point some states passed laws that prevents these guys from getting away from justice…for some judges, feeling sympathy for the killer, lets him go, or gives him a much lighter sentence. It’s like when in 1995, a gay man was killed when he announced his attraction for a straight guy on the Jenny Jones talk show….the conservative folks were making the KILLER the victim, and the murdered man the criminal….*does a monkey scratching arm pit gesture*

        Trust me, when the aliens come, I’m going. Don’t want earth, especially if earth becomes a conservative christian paradise, aka ‘leave it to beaver’ or the Victorian era.

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      23. I agree Neil, I don’t want to devolve to old fashioned values of religion based living, but the family unit is important, and this trans agenda is much more than just dating a trans.
        It’s not what if they marry a 9 year old…muslims already do that. And they mutilate the baby’s gentalia so they cannot have orgasms.
        The pedo agenda is not a what if….that is what they are planning. I could care less if someone wants to marry a horse or a table…whatever.
        I care about the children. It’s not a religous thing, it’s a destroying innocence and harming children when they grow up and find out that they can’t have children or have realized their life is cut short and they are sick all the time and never were told the results or side effects of those synthetic hormones.
        I don’t care if a man wants to date a trans, I care about being labeled a name because I or perhaps a straight male would want to have a family and gets called names like transphobic because they actually want to have a family.
        I know it’s about the heart, yes…that is the most important part, and not about biology. But to mutilate a child’s body before they can mature and decide when they are of the mind set to be realistic and know the down side of doing so.
        ATTENTION:
        Any ET’s out there who got a space ship to come and pick up Neil and get him outta here?
        I know you are here.
        I know you have an arguement for everything, pretty sure you don’t care about the human children, simply because you want to be back in your body and female. Trans women are not women, and trans males are not males…trans women (biological males) dont menstruate, they don’t have babies….The crazies need to stop trying to make the world cater to them and pretend with them like the free tampons for them, like forcing a doctor to do a gynecological exam on a trans woman (biological male) or the many other ridiculous things they are trying to do forcing people to have them in the all female spas or female sports, biological females are probably just going to opt out of it, and there’ll only be trans sports and male sports….and the beauty pagents. …and woman of the year…they can’t even tell you what a woman is. It’s another program pitting us against each other.
        I’m done with it. Everyone has a right to do what they want, as long as you aren’t trampling on another’s rights. That is my take on it.

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  3. A VERY cleverly done pro-trans bit in Orville.

    Best Comments:
    It hurts to see in the comments how many people watched this episode and somehow got an anti-trans message from it. It’s not trying to say “kids are being forced to be trans and that’s bad and we shouldn’t be trying to talk about gender to kids”, it’s saying “parents and the government ignoring how kids feel to impose what they believe to be ‘normal’ on them is bad”. Nobody needs to hear the message “It’s wrong to force your children to transition” because that’s a fucking myth spread by people who think they know best how to raise everybody else’s children. Seriously, it always amazes me how conservatives can watch a show that has so many plainly progressive messages like this or Star Trek and somehow twist what they’re seeing into thinking it’s in support of exactly what it’s saying is bad. It’s like the people that watch Star Trek and think it’s about the importance of having a strong military and a single strong, wise leader to make the important decisions.

    This is literally how coming out Trans is like and people not accepting or understanding and addressing it. I love it so much. As a trans man, this deadass is exactly how it is for Topa as it is for me. Being born female and WANTING to be male, but people not accepting it. It’s deadass a role reversal and I LOVE THIS. It’s the role reversal of Topa wanting to stay the gender she was born as and not being allowed to and loving her unconditionally. Now imagine this, but replace Topa as wanting to become male and not being allowed to and loving him unconditionally for it.
    IT’S THE SAME THING. I love this. I love Bortus and Klyden for it.

    Some see this as anti trans but I find it is actually cleverly neutral if not pro trans.Forcing an individual to conform to societal norms when they actually feel an identity contrary to those norms is never going to be healthy or work out well for them OR society.

    The youngest person to ever actually get surgery was Kim Petras, at 15. She, however, had been more or less begging her parents for that since she was 3 years old, and the family spent the next 12 years fighting the entire German psychological establishment to do what their daughter clearly wanted. She has never once regretted the decision.

    No it’s definitely a trans episode. The problems that face trans people are that there is a common ideology that you are forever the gender you are born as causing parents to force kids to be one gender or the other independent of what the child reallly wants to be. Same here where the moccland only believe you can be male

    If a child is questioning their gender and they don’t think it matches their sex they should go on hormone blockers which pretty much puts puberty on pause and completely reversible . I wish my parents allowed me to go on hormone blockers because now permanent changes have been done to my body that I have to struggle with every single day of my life and pay thousands to have altered to allow me to actually recognise myself in the mirror as myself where I could’ve been saved from that mental anguish if I was put on some simple harmless medication*

    * = This one hits home for me, perfectly. I was DENIED at even having a CHANCE.

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    1. Neil,
      It’s not completely reversable and there are side effects that can cause problems and they yet don’t know long term problems. So with that in mind, there is always a risk to a child’s health, for something they may grow out of or become unconfused about their gender totally.
      Are There Side Effects or Risks With Puberty Blockers?
      Like other medications, there are some side effects of GnRH analogue treatment. They include:

      Insomnia or muscle aches
      Fatigue
      Shifts in mood
      Changes in breast tissue
      Irregular period or spotting (for people whose periods aren’t totally suppressed by puberty blockers)
      Other short-term effects from puberty blockers may include:

      Hot flashes
      Weight gain
      Swelling where the shot went in
      Headaches
      Crying and crankiness
      Restlessness
      Acne
      Rashes
      Your child might also notice long-term changes like:

      Issues with future surgery. If children with external male genitalia start treatment with GnRH analogues early in puberty, they may not develop the right amount of scrotal or penile skin for gender-affirming surgery. There are other methods you can look into instead.

      Delayed growth plate closure. This could lead to taller adult height.

      Changes to their bone growth and density. Your child may have lower bone density. Because of this, your doctor will want to make sure they get enough exercise, calcium, and vitamin D. They’ll also keep a close watch on their bone density to make sure their bones remain strong and healthy. Some research says the long-term affects aren’t yet clear.

      Effects on their future fertility. There’s no evidence puberty blockers affect fertility. …..YET….sometime in the future we’ll find out.
      https://www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/

      https://decisionmagazine.com/fda-issues-warning-on-puberty-blockers/
      Earlier this month, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned that the puberty blockers known as gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) agonists could lead to the development of pseudotumor cerebri, or tumor-like masses in the brain. Symptoms include—but are not limited to—severe headaches, dizziness, nausea, increased blood pressure, ringing in the ears, pain behind the eyes, blurred vision and even permanent vision loss.

      Being a parent you are responsible for your child, and not allow them to give your child drugs that are gonna ruin their health. support them YES,
      get them counseling and the small amount of children that actually have a gender problem are not that common, it’s just in this society today that it is in the schools and telling kids that they are not the gender they are born with. It’s not a problem with kids until they get to school and get told this crap.

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      3. LOL, that’s your take away? Doing just fine? Not really but I guess it’s just about the perception of ‘what is ok’ and lasting life long problems being experimented on….think we are gonna hear anything else about it if it goes against the narative.
        They need to stop doing this to kids, and certainly shouldn’t make it some law to ‘affirm’ gender identity’ about kids and parents rights.
        This is also about age of consent, because next it will be that your child can decide to date a pedo at age 11 because they don’t understand the purpose of some 40 year old who wants to date underage kids.

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